What is Normal? Ginny Scales-Medeiros redefines the idea of normal in this powerful & thought provoking interview


When we were young and the adults in our lives are often the creators of our world, it can be really difficult to question their authority. All of their life experiences and their inner chaos become a mirror reflecting on our lives, and were often given a definition of what quote-unquote normal looks like. Time and time again I have extraordinary people who have risen above the unimaginable by summoning and inner strength to question the reality they have been dealt in life. To question the authority and to bravely ask what is normal? This question can unravel generations of limited beliefs, and become a seed of empowerment so strong that anything becomes possible.


Hi I’m Cara and this is Cara Jones Speaks. A show where I like to shed light on the extraordinary.


Ginny Scales-Medeiros is one of the incredible people who at a very young age begin to see there was more beyond the immediate reality that had been created for her. As a survivor of sexual abuse and poverty Ginny captured her captivating story in her critically acclaimed novel What Is Normal. This is an incredible book and I highly recommend it for everybody to read. Sue the character based on Ginny’s life emerge from the most likely to not succeed into a success. On her own at 15, she invented a product sold on QVC. Battling her demons who finally wins over self destruction and the world’s fantasy of what is normal and found her authentic self. As an inventor with multiple patents and trademarks Ginny’s patented sunless tanning system won first prize in a national contest for new ideas, and has been featured in fashion magazines, television, radio, and offered in world class resorts, doctors offices, sold on QVC, as well as and as seen TV product. Ginny broke into the predominantly male Auto industry in the late seventies selling a car on her first day and receiving a plaque which read “sales man of the month.” She continue to make top sales person year after year, and created a female car buying Clinic teaching the basics of what to look for when buying a car. Empowering women to make informed purchasing decisions for themselves. Jeanne also gave up gas driving in 2007, and has been featured in the well-known documentary what is an electric car. I’m excited to speak with Jenny about all the things she’s accomplished, and how others can learn from her experiences overcoming extreme adversity and changing your life path by overcoming your limiting beliefs. Here is our interview.


Cara: Ginny you’ve had quite an accomplished life as an author, mentor and entrepreneur, and I’ve been reading your novel and I can’t help but notice the similarities between yourself and the character Sue. So what inspired you to write this book and to name it after a question so many of us ask ourselves, What Is Normal?


Ginny: What inspired me to write it was my sole desire to grow and to move past some of the things that were holding me back, and in order to do that I needed to revisit my past. So that was the inspiration, and I also new from experiencing with people that I have met, that hear my story stating that it has inspired them two believe in themselves again. I knew that it also would not only help me grow but it would inspire people to see that their, that they could start right from they are. Meaning if you got in a wreck, you’re in a relationship that’s not very good, or you’re in a rut of a job, that you don’t have to believe that you can’t have more because you perhaps didn’t get a college degree, or because you know how children, or whatever the belief system you have you can now let it go, and at any moment you can call on the divine whatever that is in your world to assist you on your worlds Journey. And that really is what Sue has done her life, my life proves that finishing only the ninth grade I still was able to invent and patent a product, write a book, you know now it’s been adapted into a screenplay, now I’m on a mission to make it a movie. There are no absolute’s as far as you have to do things a certain way to succeed.


Cara: I think that the message in your book ending your personal story it so important for people to hear because I think sometimes we can all get lost and are limiting beliefs, and believing that we are only as good as people tell us we are. And when I read your story I really just feel that you know inner-curiosity, like you were looking around thinking this, this what’s happening to me, what’s being said to me doesn’t reflect what’s really going on, in your heart almost as if you were questioning it the whole time, but it was a very confusing thing. Because if all the adults say it so then it must be so. Right? Did you feel? Did you feel that when you were revisiting all this and studying yourself as a child, that inner child part of you? Do you think that you questioned that when you were younger as well? What was really though limits of your life? What were the limits?


Ginny:  I questioned what I was being sold as far as who created everything. When you read the book you’ll see as I’m in church and I just could not believe that I was supposed to go to church Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, Friday night when there were so many animals out there that needed me to take care of them. And then I couldn’t understand why this God was going to ask people for money that didn’t have money for food, that didn’t make sense to me. So what I questioned was the Leader of the leaders meaning who was leading my parents, so if that was not, didn’t make sense to me although I always knew there was something greater than me. I knew there was a source energy, something it just didn’t fit that it was what I was being sold on. So I always questioned that so what I did was I kind of created my own connection with creator, and really that was my guide through life. And out on my own at 15, finishing only the ninth grade I still had that strong connection with creator, and so perhaps it was as it said in the book I was molested grown ups new bout it they never did anything for me maybe I just went over the manager’s head and on to the next which was my direct connection with whatever you want to call God. Call water h2O, aqua, it’s wet, its water, you can call God Creator,Source, Spirit of the universe whatever you choose to call it. Words that are very limiting, but I have my own connection with that Source which is where I got my ideas the pants product and bringing into the physical world, and where I got everything, the book, everything.


Cara: And you can feel that connection as you get into the book. It’s really powerful. It’s so intimate I really feel like I’m walking that path with you when I’m reading the book, I just love it, and I think that it really talks about our strength and our vulnerability. Question those things in life you know and going over the manager of all managers head you know. It’s very scary to do but you did it and look where it got you. As I’m researching and learning more and more about you I’m like “Wow what an incredible life experience.” you’re in a male-dominant automotive industry, and you created a nice for yourself that empowers women to make informing purchase decisions, and not even touching on all the inventions. It’s just so incredible reading about your inspiration. Can you talk to me about why it’s increasingly necessary, what kind of feedback have you had as a strong female presence in this world and didn’t that industry, and creating a really empowered niche? What’s it been like for you?

Ginny: What’s interesting is Sue, myself, one in the same travelled kind of almost as a loner or and independent soul because I chose things where I would get push-back from the rails in that industry especially in the auto industry. So what I experienced was the men in that industry their egos were bruised because I came in and I was instantly…. I sold… I mean it’s on my Wikipedia and it’s backed up by the newspaper article from the 80’s. I sold the car my first day. I sold a car everyday for a month, and made top salesperson 6 years in a row in car dealer where there were no other women, and no other women had ever sold cars yet before there. So the men were embarrassed and their egos for bruised so they even started ” hey she must be sleeping with her customers, blah, blah” and it made the news as far as my accomplishments in the Auto industry and then as you know I started a workshop for women to come in any kind of just learning the basics of how to check the oil, make sure the tires are good, some of that kind of stuff if they’re going to buy a used car so they did not have to bring in a guy and then pretty much he took responsibility for their decision. He said if the car wasn’t any good you know they didn’t have to take any responsibility for their decision. So I wanted them to be empowered enough to be able to get a basic idea what to look for if they were looking for a used car. So I put that clinic together and the fact that it was in the eighties and something not, that hadn’t been done yet as far as I know in the news. It made the news as well which also kind of rub salt in the wound with salesman net worth not selling as many automobiles as I was. The fact that it was in the news made it even more difficult for them to accept the fact that I had a talent, a natural-born talent of selling, and that’s what Sue had, and that’s what I have that’s a gift. And as you know we can use our gifts for good or evil. And the automobile industry I just tried to empower the female customer so they could come in and make a purchase on their own, and also I feel I was not a threat to the customers because they expecting a man to come out. I think it was harder for them to be mean to me. The customers it was harder to do that to me then it would be to a guy, and tell him “getaway I don’t want to talk to you.” They didn’t do that is much to me. So anyways.. And the automobile business somehow followed me. I ended up a pioneer in the electric auto industry and in a documentary what is the electric car and I’m also a co-author that book what is the electric car along with other celebrities Ed Begley Jr and Jay Leno. I gave up gas automobiles in 2007. I have not owned a gas car since then. I like to say I love passing gas… stations.



Cara: I think it’s really incredible to hear that you started this journey in the 80’s because it’s almost like the buzzword these days are branding yourself, your personal brand and authenticity, and you were just rocking it back then which would have been an element out of the norm you know going back to your book what is normal? But there you were branding yourself as an authentic person who cared about the general well-being of people and their education around something that they took for granted probably. Like yeah we know about cars. You’re right can you imagine now that being in the news?


Ginny: Yeah like today it would not make the news, but back then it did and it is… My first plaque probably more than my first plaque, probably my first few plaques said salesmen of the month when I sold… Yeah it’s Ginny salesman of the month. Yeah so it… We’ve come a long way and I definitely was part of that because when management forward any company sees that females can sell or out sell the men the bottom line for them is money and sales, they’re going to change their policy. So I was definitely part of that.


Cara: That’s so fantastic. When I read about your involvement with What Is The Electric Car I was really curious to hear from you about how you think our relationship and the way we travel will change in the next 10 years?


Ginny: Will definitely we will be in cars that drive themselves. That’s an absolute. CES as far as I know is the biggest new innovation in technology events and that’s in Las Vegas, they just had the CES Show. That’s the big invention is cars will be self-driving. You will get in and it will be more like a small living room, and you’ll just sit in there and the car is going to take you where you’re going, it’s going to know what kind of music you like to play, they’re even going to be able to read your mood. If you get in and you’re not in a good mood it’s going to play the kind of music that would uplift you personally based on your likes and dislikes in music, it’s already going to know. That we’re going to have transportation that drives itself. The  infra-structure for the roads are going to have to be put in, and probably it will start with one lane just kind of like our Diamond Lanes which we haven’t California which are for either motorcycles or cars that have more than one person in them to keep the pollution down, or electric cars, and hybrids get to drive in those Lanes.


Cara: That’s going to be quite a journey hey? It’s going to be amazing to see how it changes our communities as well.


Ginny:That’s where we’re headed for transportation.


Cara: Pretty fascinating. I’m going to be interested to see, and I think it’s going to happen so much faster then people realized.


Ginny: Yeah I’m thinking 10 years. Know what a lot of people don’t know and I don’t know if you know, but the late 1800’s there were electric cars and the early 1900’s most of New York City was predominantly 100% electric cars.


Cara: I didn’t know that. That’s amazing.


Ginny: Henry Ford’s intention was that cars were going to be electric. It was the oil industry that convince him to make the car’s gas. So there are… One of the first electric car companies what’s called Detroit Electric and there are electric cars from the early 1900’s at 100 miles on a charge. One of the reasons that we do not have the infrastructure for electric cars like we should is that in the United States… You’re in Canada correct?


Cara: Yes.

Ginny: In the United States for example. In California when you buy gas let’s say the gas is $2.85 at probably $0.60 or more per gallon go to the state, it’s called the gas tax. And states in the United States get gas tax so where’s the incentive for them to let go of gas tax that supports the state for electric cars?


Cara: That’s true.


Ginny: They would lose that. Even if 10% of cars were Electric that would be 10% of the gas tax revenue that the states would not be getting. So for me when you see technology advancing, you get your new phone and it’s already outdated, and you’re going to tell me we had electric cars and the early nineteen hundreds that went 100 miles on a charge, and today we only have them going maybe 200 or 250. But we don’t have anything that really going… 300 miles on a charge will be great. A lot of cars that’s all they go 300- 350 miles on the charge.


Cara: It doesn’t surprise me that’s the way that it’s going with the almighty dollar, and having to give up those incentives. But what you think will make people change and go towards the electric car?


Ginny: Unfortunately Cara how I watch the world change is by catastrophes, tragedies. They forced change it’s like right now we’ve got President Trump and like it, don’t like it, this is forcing change because we did the same thing it was safe over, and over, and over. Little changes were made, people got used to them, then the next person came in kept that little change and they kinda stayed along the same lines. Like it or not, for good or for bad, who knows things might blow up, things might get better but we’re going to force change. One of the biggest changes it’s going to be that we have a lot of people to stay in the same positions in our government for like 20 years which means they can just say with the same thing, and if it works for them they’re going to go against making any changes. So term limits is huge and I’m not saying I support Trump, don’t support Trump I’m saying that big things have to happen. 9/11, oil spills all kinds you know the tracking that’s causing problems with our world, big catastrophes happen and then we have changed.


Cara: It’s incredible that your saying that because I… The day after I work with a youth Council, that’s a miniature City Council you know so there that youthfulness of the city council so we had to meet the day after the election, and you know everybody was just so down because it affects, it trickles down to us and I live in a very oil-driven, like our economy is driven by the oil here. So people were really, and I was depressed I was like “Gees HERE” right? It was a seventeen-year-old almost exactly what you just said they said “You know what as much as I don’t like it, and I don’t understand it, I also think that maybe this needed to happen for change to happen.” And I was like you know they shed a light that I hadn’t really thought of. You know I’m a bit of an optimist, but I like having realist people around or realist beyond what I perceive right away. But kind of shedding that idea that people will rise up and the people have allowed for the government’s to control everything, and now people or speaking up, and speaking out, and change is starting to happen because people are making it happen. They’re taking more control, and maybe that’s what will happen who knows? But I think you’re really right when you say that, like it has to happen, and sometimes it’s really uncomfortable and scary. But yeah it’s going to be an interesting next 10 years for sure to see what’s going to happen. We’re going to remember this time when the major shifts were happening, but when it comes to the environment I definitely think electric cars are going to help, I hope.

Ginny: Tesla showed us how to have free energy 100 years ago and Edison showed us how to have energy and make money, and we chose to go with the one with the money. Because solar has been around forever and we could be operating transportation on free energy, growing your own food. We have a lot and this is only from my experience I’ve been on the planet a while and I watch people kind of turn their lives over to something else. Like I’m going to go work for General motors, and I’m going to have a pension, and I’m going to have retirement, I’m going to have the vacation days, I’m going to have sick days, and then when general Motors went bankrupt everybody you know all the engineers that where in Detroit, the place fell apart, people weren’t going to have the money they thought they were going to have, people lost their jobs, they weren’t desperation and we can’t turn our lives over to anything whether it’s I’m going to trust in the president is going to do the same thing the next four years or there’s going to be slight changes that we’re going to hardly even notice. And when you talk about electric cars we constantly choose the source that there’s going to be a profit to be made. I think we’re getting to a place where what happening even with the election, the people that are really upset about president-elect Donald Trump being in position. They perhaps and I’m hoping will be stirred happy enough to actually make some changes themselves cause it’s really us. I can make a change in my neighbourhood, you can make a change in your neighbourhood, if everybody does something in their immediate area we can make change, but if we just have people that run the show and we trust them and we never know what’s going on like all these people that lost their job and Detroit. That state is just depressed. I’ve been there and seen it since that happened and the recovery is really slow, but my point is that they went there for a job and security and turned it over to a company they believed in and thought they would live happily ever after. And tragic, and catastrophe have to happen unfortunately for the humans to make changes.


Cara: It’s interesting as you’re speaking I just can’t help but think that it’s almost as if that’s been the theme of your life. You know like you’ve seen trauma, you’ve experienced trauma, and you were the one that took control, you were the one that made those decisions and you became something so successful that people could never have envisioned, those adults in your life you know. And when you look at how the world is running right now, and how the people are starting to see that within themselves. I think that your story is something that people really need to hear because I think that they need reminded that small changes like you said within your community ripple out. They do. They make a difference, and it might not seem like a big deal even when I think back to how you for running these workshops for women, it might have just seem like nothing at the time or it was something because it was in the media, but it something we say “oh my gosh can you believe that made the news?  But actually that is so empowering in so many ways because it does create change in your community and then change in the world. And I guess I would love to ask you the question based on all the things you learned and I mean that’s a big thing, you’ve learned a lot I’m sure. Tell me and one quick snippet all of the things that you’ve learned, but how do you feel that from all the things that you’ve experienced, with those people out there who feel defeated by their current situations, what kind of advice would you give them?

Ginny: Well the advice that I would give them, and this is a question I get asked and one that I like to get asked because this is one of the gifts of the book is. And I look at my life and I say I could have never been an example of this one gift I want to give the world unless I’d live this life, and this life with somebody who didn’t finish school, I finished ninth grade, out on my own at 15, no real home support I mean I was the one that helped my mom. So what the gift of the book is, is to show that the energy source that we need to accomplish the mission that we signed on for when we were born into this time and space is available to us all the time. So it could be filtered through God, or Catholic, or Buddhism, or Jesus, or Jehovah, or whatever it could be filtered through that, but there is a source energy available to all of us because you are born at this particular time in space on purpose. You have a mission here. You signed up for it before you came here, and everything you need to be successful is waiting for you to allow it. So our belief system is the most important thing that keeps us from allowing and letting energy and the source we need into our lives. When you believe something everything around you shows up to support that belief, so if you believe you can you are correct, and if you believe you can’t you are correct. So what I say is whatever that passion is and everybody’s got it we’re all born with gifts and talents. It could be that you love to teach and when you teach you feel joy, you love music and when you play music you feel joy, it could be that you love golf and when you play golf you feel joy. You know what your gift is, and a lot of people will tell me I gave that up because now I’m married with kids, I gave that up because I can’t afford it. All you need is to turn your direction toward what that is that brought you joy because it will bring passion and passion equals energy, and that energy will bring you out of depression and back into the game of life on your mission.

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